Some things on the lenovo were better, others were worse. Lenovo has a shit brand called IdeaPad or something like that, that competes with other low end systems. But, I am referring to the premium ThinkPad brand.

Also, the Mayans did not predict the end of the world in 2012. That is a myth.

I’m a Mac, and I never have to worry about “printerfriday”

On the Win7 debate….I think Windows 7 is the best at doing what it’s meant to do, which is provide a stable OS (Windows 7 is huge step up from previous versions) for possibly millions of combinations of hardware and software. So instead of saying “windows is awful, I give up” how about, “Apple does everything I need, so long Windows”?

Of course this is all in fun…thanks for Dark Room…it works on my Win 7 perfectly and it does what I need.

As Vanlandw says about his iMac – it’s given him more hardware issues than any of his other systems. Which, says to me: “ordering random hardware off the internet, building the computer yourself is just as reliable if not more”

And I’d also like to see the parts breakdown for your lenovo vs Apple’s macbook pro. For 1600 i would wager you get higher specs than the 2000 dollar MBP.

Apples reliability is bested by Asus, Sony, and Toshiba. In fact they’re only very slightly edging out DELL.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/laptop-reliability-survey-asus-and-toshiba-win-hp-fails

Clearly this is probably a pointless debate as we could jab at each others respective viewpoints probably until 2012 when the mayan calender dictates we perish.

I’M A PC AND WINDOWS 7 WAS MY IDEA.

Windows sucks, because Windows sucks. This was just the straw that broke the camels back after I tried to give Windows another chance with the release of Windows 7.

The Mac premium varies depending on the hardware you get. With the recent price drops, it is not as much as it used to be in most cases. For example, if I were going to get a new laptop, it would cost ~$2,000 to get another MacBook Pro. And, I have priced out PC laptops, and I would definitely go with a Lenovo ThinkPad which would cost ~$1600. So, it isn’t really that much more to go with the Mac.

Currently, I am in the market for a new iMac. I figured that with applecare, and taxes, it would come in just under $1500. The dell that I bought earlier in the year, with the 22″ lcd cost me $1300 after I upgraded some of the inferior hardware in the dell, and that did not include a warranty. So, again, not that much of a difference.

I agree with you on Apple’s attitude. I loath purchasing any of their equipment. But, the simple fact of the matter is, it is worth it.

I think Windows 7 was handling the Dell hardware fine. The problem was my fancy firewire card. Sounds like I would have had more luck with a cheap one.

Jja – I have a couple points to make here.

first, is that at least you have the capability to freely put hardware into your Windows PC.

Secondly, for you to say that windows sucks because you had driver issues with one peice of hardware is slightly overkill. Personally I am pretty impressed with how well Microsoft does detecting and automatically setting up such a wide array of hardware as is.

And, finally, you should go buy a new Mac and spend 2-3 times as much.

I personally don’t hate Apple, I dont hate Mac OS – but I do hate their pompous “we’re better than everyone” attitude, price gouging, and overall communistic business approach to the point that I will never purchase their computer hardware.

GG all around; I love everybody.

gg jja

Seriously Windows does suck. I could write a novel about how rancid my work PC is with XP. My EEE with XP Home actually has been rock solid for a year. The thing is my Mac I’ve had more problems with then any computer I’ve ever owned including a HD failure and a recall. On the filp side it’s a beautiful workstation that has been my primary for almost five years.

My comptuer usage has changed dramatically over the years but still I don’t think I’ll ever buy a PC desktop ever again. People think mac’s are “more money” but seriously buying a mac is like buying a steam mop. You might spend 20 dollars less for the cheap steam mop but for 20 dollars more you get one that is easer to push and to use. Bad anology but regardless.

You are jja